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Old 08-06-2009, 03:20 PM
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BUT HE NEVER LOVED ME BACK….

The truth behind Judy Green’s recent outburst, by Lynn Santer, Alby’s authorized biographer

As you know, veteran Hollywood producer, Paul Mason is developing a major feature film from my authorised biography on the life of Alby Mangels. Paul and I are currently developing the first draft screenplay along side speaking with A-List directors, actors, and potential investors. As part of this process it was important to speak with key people in Alby’s life to secure letters from them to use their likeness, or alternatively remove them from, or fictionalise them in, the film. One of these was Judy Green.

Between Alby, Paul and myself it was decided that I should make contact with the relevant parties. For the most part this was an extremely simple exercise, until it came to Judy.

From the moment I first called her she started verbosely putting forward her case that her story had never been told. My immediate though was, “This is Alby’s life story. World Safari is but a small part of his overall life story, and you were only a small part of that part.” Nonetheless I listened politely as an increasing number of calls between Judy, her husband, Richard Norton, and myself reached a point where Judy told me she would only sign a letter for the film production if we could meet face-to-face for her to tell me a few things. I spoke with Paul (as Alby was out of the country and unreachable at that time) and he told me I should go. Accordingly I made plans to stay with Judy and Richard in Melbourne the following weekend.

The couple treated me very well and we got along famously, as evidenced by the photos below. This fact notwithstanding, Judy told me some simply awful, and frankly unbelievable, things about Alby. I believe this was in an attempt to play hardball in negotiations for her deal with the feature film. Irrespective of this I put Judy’s terms to Paul and he agreed to give her everything she wanted – there was not even any negotiation, he just said yes. It was all good.

During that time I did ask Judy a few pointed questions, not least of which was around her accusations that Alby didn’t pay her what he owed her for World Safari Two. She showed me a mountain of paperwork to supposedly back up her claim, but having read every word of it, the paperwork raised more questions than it answered. When I pointed this out and re-asked about monies paid to her she kept saying, “I can’t remember.”

Given her apparent bitterness towards Alby I also asked her repeatedly why she agreed to do “Where Are They Now?” with Alby, only two years ago, where she held his hand, looked lovingly into his eyes, and told the world quite freely and without solicitation that Alby Mangels is an amazing man. She just shrugged and said she didn’t know/seemed like a good idea at the time. She further told me that she and Alby had dinner together after the show, and it was a perfectly pleasant and civilised “catch up”. I found this puzzling given the story she was telling me not two years after that “perfectly pleasant” meeting, which took place TWENTY-SIX YEARS after the accusations she is now levelling at him.

During a dinner with Judy’s mother (while I was in Melbourne) Judy also told me she was so in love with Alby during the World Safari years that she was still in love with him two years into her relationship with her now husband, Richard Norton; that would have been four years after Alby allegedly did all the terrible things to her that she is now claiming.

As my role in all this was simply to get a letter for the movie, and those terms had apparently been agreed to, I let the inconsistencies slide, remained on a friendly basis, and returned to Queensland. After this, at Judy and Richard’s request, I did the following for them:

1. Negotiated a deal for Judy to do a story in New Idea magazine which would cover the extent of her injuries sustained in the car accident in South America, how she overcame them, and where she is today. This was to be a positive piece to inspire others who have suffered similar injuries. New Idea offered to pay $10,000 to Judy for the story, and she accepted that offer – in writing.
2. Negotiated a modelling deal for Judy with Vangeli Jewellers of Canberra, which Judy was thrilled about.
3. Spoke to publishers on Richard’s behalf about a book he wants to have written by a friend of his. He was very grateful for my input and assistance and offered (unsolicited) to pay me a commission if a deal went through. I did not ask for this, and did not even ask for the offer to be put in writing when he made it. The same thing applied with the deals I negotiated for Judy.

As Judy and Richard knew, I was going to Darwin straight after my return from Melbourne to spend two and a half weeks with my sister and her family to celebrate my birthday, my sister’s birthday, and my eldest nephew turning 13 years old. We agreed we would sort out paperwork on my return. While I was away Judy called me to say she had been contacted by A Current Affair, out of the blue, wanting to do a story on her and she wanted my advice as to whether to do that story or not. I strenuously recommended against it, given the bitter history between ACA and Alby, and expressed my profound and grave doubts that ACA would suddenly, out of the blue, be contacting Judy – NOW – about this story after she has been out of the media for 28 years. Judy’s reply was, “That’s a bit insulting. It just shows I’ve still got it.” And I think she actually believed that. I think it is likely the approach from ACA came via a leak in New Idea; although we can’t prove this and there is an equal possibility she initiated the contact herself.

Against my strenuous advice to the contrary, Judy opted to go with the ACA story, hence reneging on her deal with New Idea, which I had negotiated for her at her request. I expressed my disappointment in her at her behaviour and have not spoken with her since that day.

At this point I sent an email out to Alby to contact me, which he did, and I filled him in on everything that had transpired since he left the country. Needless to say he was shocked, and extremely disappointed in Judy. Nothing about this made any sense, especially given Judy and Alby had caught up only two years prior (at Where Are They Now) and remained in friendly contact since that time. Something didn’t add up. Furthermore Alby confirmed he had in fact paid Judy $80,000 from World Safari Two, and given her a new car, and he could prove it. He added that after the accident in South America he waited by her side until her mother arrived (at Alby’s expense) and only then was he airlifted himself to have his own serious injuries treated.

I explained to Alby that Judy appeared to still be shattered, even twenty-eight years later, that they had never married. She believed theirs was a love that was forever, so she told me. Alby said that was all in her own mind, and never on the cards.


As Alby’s biographer I can reveal something that Alby will never say himself, because he’s too much of a gentleman, but the reality is that AFTER the accident in South America, while Judy was still employed FULL TIME by World Safari, and while she was supposedly so injured and brain damaged (she told me in Melbourne only a few weeks ago that she still can’t read or write as a result of the accident) Judy organized a bikini photo shoot for a calendar. During this time she had an affair with someone extremely close to Alby.

Judy invited the man (whose name we are not using because he now has a family) to her hotel room to “see her bikinis” and then seduced him. This affair lasted two nights. It was as a result of discovering this, and NOT because of the car accident, that Alby continued World Safari Two without Judy, and subsequently met Michelle.

This fact turns everything about Judy’s claims against Alby upside down. How sick and brain damaged was she really if she had organized and conducted a bikini shoot??? That fact notwithstanding let us consider that Judy’s so-called “pain” is 28 years old. I can assure you that she is quite a capable woman, having spent time with her only recently, and having negotiated various contracts for her at her request, yet what has she done in the last 28 years? Now let’s look at what Alby’s done in the last 28 years, starting with the current project.

Alby is RIGHT NOW in Micronesia building a school for orphans as part of the charity he runs together with his sister, Ria, called DAD (Disabled And Disadvantaged children). Ria has a wealth on information on this charity and this project, which dates right back to when Piers Souter had the tragic accident in World Safari ONE that left him paraplegic. When the rest of the World Safari crew wanted to continue on with the adventure regardless, Alby refused and lived in a boat shed for six months, wanting to remain nearby Piers as he dealt with this tragedy. During that time not only did Ria and Alby found DAD but they also developed a revolutionary and multi-awarded wheelchair design that allowed disabled people far greater independence than they had ever had before. This is the terrible man that Judy Green now seems hell bent on destroying, and after 28 years you have to ask yourself – WHY????


My belief is that she is nothing more than a faded, jaded, wannabe star who has seen an immediate opportunity to get her face back on TV and make some money, while at the same time finally giving Alby a swipe across the face for never marrying her (which was never going to happen even before she seduced someone so close to Alby) and she has consequently grabbed the bird in the hand, reneging on all other negotiated deals, showing a complete lack of honour and integrity in the extreme. I believe she only accepted the Where Are They Now offer to get her face back on TV too, desperately hoping to recapture the glory days long since gone.
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Old 12-04-2009, 11:26 PM
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Hmmmmmm all I can say to this HOW VERY TRUE!!!!!! my partner and I were quite close to Judy and her husband Richard for about 18mths. We heard those very same words nearly every day plus the tears that went with it. It was quite ridiculous!!!!

We never knew what she really was thinking from day to day. We also found her to be quite hurtful.

It is sad that Judy can't move on after all these years and enjoye her princes life that she has.
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Old 05-31-2010, 04:24 PM
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Oddly enough,I'm watching the video when she first joined him and I just discovered this forum.
Too bad she is acting in such a way when they experienced all they did together.
Personally I believe that he and Michelle made a much better couple. She was a bit to pampered for his lifestyle though.
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Old 06-02-2010, 09:25 AM
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I thought Judy did admirably well to hold her own with Alby but her recent behavior reveals a disturbing side to her personality.
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Old 05-05-2012, 12:41 AM
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Smile .. to the girl from Reservoir

I knew Judy way back in secondary school and she and her family were exceptionally warm and caring people - she was an unaffected, totally unpretentious person and could laugh at herself. It is a great pity that these years later she seems not to be healed psychologically from her horrible experience.
It's the 'now' that is the meaningful - you have an adoring wonderful man who clearly loves you - you seem to have made a good life with him so why poison it with the past... find the strength and grace to recognise what truly matters...love your life and release yourself. If someone treats you with such shallowness and callous disregard it was never a partnership of equals - you're so far ahead..I have a feeling you are actually most fulfilled and strongest, helping others..I wish Judy all the best
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Old 08-14-2012, 09:39 PM
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BUT HE NEVER LOVED ME BACK….

The truth behind Judy Green’s recent outburst, by Lynn Santer, Alby’s authorized biographer

As you know, veteran Hollywood producer, Paul Mason is developing a major feature film from my authorised biography on the life of Alby Mangels. Paul and I are currently developing the first draft screenplay along side speaking with A-List directors, actors, and potential investors. As part of this process it was important to speak with key people in Alby’s life to secure letters from them to use their likeness, or alternatively remove them from, or fictionalise them in, the film. One of these was Judy Green.
your are obviously one very very nasty person - really to throw in such quotes about her love or Alby..it is clear your motives are far different than you present and incredibly nasty whilst trying to paint yourself as an Alby saint -. I spent nearly 7 or so years with Richard and Judy and never once did Judy ever mention Alby or World Safari. I found Judy and Richard to be warm and funny and yes Judy was tottally unpretentious and a decent person ...and i mean decent ...you could not ask for a more warm and caring person..its obvious you have no understanding what so ever of what sever head injuries do to people ...even when they recover...so you are not only insidiously nasty but ignorant as well ..as for the other person trashing Judy and Richard..i can see why your not friends now ...and rightly so ..who'd want friends like you !
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Old 08-18-2012, 08:44 AM
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Judy never once mentioned the very subject matter that you now profess to be an expert on? You're characterizing Judy's feelings and actions regarding a subject about which you have no idea how she feels?

Please, if you have something to say in rebuttal to Lynn's informed opinion, do so. But no more absurd generalizations.
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Old 08-18-2012, 01:38 PM
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Lynn Santer authorized me to post this response.

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In point of fact after Judy’s outburst on A Current Affair she actually called Lynn asking “if she could be friends again” i.e. now she’d done what she’d wanted to do for 25 in publicly swiping Alby across the face for “not loving her back” she wanted all the deals that Lynn had set up for her back (a deal with New Idea magazine worth $10,000, a modelling contract with an award winning jeweller in Canberra, an offer for inclusion in and financial reward from the Alby bio epic film and an introduction for Richard to Alby’s publisher for a book he was writing about his own life – all deals negotiated for Judy, at Judy’s request, by Lynn). Unsurprisingly Lynn declined to re-offer Judy everything she had already done for her in good faith so Judy went to New Idea herself through a photographer friend of hers who works for the magazine trying to get her deal back through the back door – New Idea told her to get lost. She then flew to Hollywood with her husband to meet with Paul Mason to try and get the film deal back through the back door and that didn’t bring her any joy either. Judy has a wonderful life with an adoring husband and good luck to her for that. She should feel blessed that life has taken her down a path to such fulfilment and we wish her all the good luck and joy in the world with the rest of her life, we just wish she would stop saying what suits her in the moment over a love that was never hers to lose.
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